{"id":177,"date":"2014-10-03T16:28:45","date_gmt":"2014-10-03T15:28:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.darrenumney.com\/blog\/?p=177"},"modified":"2014-11-24T13:47:39","modified_gmt":"2014-11-24T13:47:39","slug":"what-the-victorians-do-for-us-part-two","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/darrenumney.com\/wordpress\/?p=177","title":{"rendered":"What the Victorians do for us &#8211; part two"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Stop HS2 campaign website recently revisited an interview with the Secretary of State for Transport where she drew on a Victorian heritage of &#8216;boldness&#8217; \u00a0to justify the need for a new\u00a0High Speed Railway. I was considering this in general terms\u00a0as a kind of design precedent in my <a title=\"What the Victorians do for us\" href=\"http:\/\/www.darrenumney.com\/blog\/2014\/09\/02\/what-the-victorians-do-for-us\/\">last post<\/a>\u00a0but the StopHS2 campaign were also thinking about it as an invitation to make technological comparisons\u00a0between the eighteenth, nineteenth and twenty-first centuries.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>If we were to follow the Victorian example, says StopHS2, we wouldn&#8217;t be looking backwards to a 200 year old technology but looking forwards to embrace one for\u00a0the future:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;The\u00a0thing is,\u00a0<\/em><em>the Victorians didn&#8217;t look back and copy what was going on more than a century earlier, in the 1700s. They looked at what was new in Victorian times, and that was trains &#8211; then. If we want to copy Victorian vision, we should not try and rebuild what they built. We should look at what is new in the 21st century &#8211; and that isn&#8217;t a faster train.&#8221;<br \/>\nFrom the Archives: Justine Greening, Victorians versus Today.<br \/>\n<\/em>Online at:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/stophs2.org\/news\/11952-archives-justine-greening-victorians-today\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/stophs2.org\/news\/11952-archives-justine-greening-victorians-today<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The\u00a0comparison between the\u00a0two railways across the\u00a0two centuries, both by the Minister and the campaigners, distills something\u00a0of what the current debate is about: What did the Victorians do and why did they do it?<\/p>\n<p>The 1830&#8217;s version of the railway was an embodiment of the spirit of the Industrial Revolution. Private capital\u00a0investing in new infrastructure in order to move goods to market. A\u00a0railway could get the goods there quicker and cheaper than the competition which at that time was road or canal. So the industrialist\u00a0increases his market and his profit. The railway company profits from the\u00a0freight charges.<\/p>\n<p>The carriage of passengers provided an additional revenue stream but this was seen as secondary to the commercial, agricultural and wider benefits promoted by the London and Birmingham Railway Company as it canvassed for support. These benefits were enumerated in the extract of minutes of evidence from the 1832 House of Lords Committee on the Railway Bill.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_183\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-183\" style=\"width: 322px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.railwaysarchive.co.uk\/documents\/HMG_MinutesEvidenceLonBirm1832.pdf\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-183\" src=\"http:\/\/www.darrenumney.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/LBR-evidence-summary-203x300.png\" alt=\"LBR evidence summary\" width=\"322\" height=\"475\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-183\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The classification of evidence from &#8220;Extracts from the minutes of evidence given before the Committee of the Lords on the London and Birmingham Railway Bill, 1832&#8221;. These extracts were published by the railway company after the original Bill failed to gain sufficient support to proceed in the 1832 session. Online at: http:\/\/www.railwaysarchive.co.uk\/documents\/HMG_MinutesEvidenceLonBirm1832.pdf<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The railway was primarily intended to\u00a0transport goods and in doing so would\u00a0generate profits to\u00a0shareholders, merchants and industrialists. This was their vision. They went about it with a bold engagement with landowners who were bought off at vastly inflated property prices. And a bold\u00a0exploitation of the fledgling shareholder economy.<\/p>\n<p>The adoption of the new technology to do this can be seen as an incremental development of the transport network. The wheel had been used to carry goods on turnpikes in the early eighteenth century. This had, in turn, been superseded by the narrow boat, which carried goods on a dedicated\u00a0waterway.<\/p>\n<p>The railway would\u00a0combine the\u00a0new(-ish) technology of the steam engine with the old technology of the wheel and the advantages of a\u00a0dedicated highway. Together these innovations offered significantly faster and\u00a0more reliable transportation\u00a0links between the suppliers and their markets.<\/p>\n<p>So, the Victorians were visionary and were bold but were being so by\u00a0building on their immediate precedents. The development\u00a0of the railway was based on the expansion of existing markets, the\u00a0exploitation\u00a0of existing financial instruments and the evolution of existing technologies. How does this compare with HS2?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Stop HS2 campaign website recently revisited an interview with the Secretary of State for Transport where she drew on a Victorian heritage of &#8216;boldness&#8217; \u00a0to justify the need for a new\u00a0High Speed Railway. 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